RFK Jr. Dismantles Doctor’s Pro-Vaccine Stance in Town Hall Meeting

Madhava Setty, M.D.

06/29/23

An exchange on vaccine safety and testing between Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Dr. Tariq Butt, a family medicine doctor, during a televised town hall hosted by journalist Elizabeth Vargas demonstrates that “we aren’t in an epidemiological crisis, we are in an epistemological one.”

Epistemology is the theory of knowledge. Epistemologists ask the foundational question, “How do we know what we know?”

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on Wednesday appeared in a town hall meeting hosted by NewsNation and moderated by journalist Elizabeth Vargas.

The exchanges between Kennedy — chairman on leave from Children’s Health Defense — Vargas and Dr. Tariq Butt, a family medicine doctor in the audience, demonstrated the real quagmire the scientific community finds itself in.

Doctors and journalists cannot see the difference between believing and knowing. If we were in a rational world, there wouldn’t be the need for censorship and shadowbanning.

Nor would many of the vaccines on the childhood immunization schedule, as presently formulated and tested, have found their way into the arms of young human beings.

In 13 short minutes, Kennedy deftly demonstrated to the audience that our problem isn’t just a failure of epidemiology — it’s one of epistemology:

Vargas first framed the topic this way:

“The biggest controversy surrounding your candidacy is your stance on childhood vaccines. Nearly every scientific and medical organization including the CDC [Centers for Disease Control and Prevention], the FDA [U.S. Food and Drug Administration], the AMA [American Medical Association], the American Academy of Pediatrics, all say you’re wrong on this issue.”

Vargas opened the door for Kennedy to not only clarify his position — which he said has been distorted and misrepresented no matter how many times he has tried to set the record straight — but she also revealed how little thought and research she has done into the controversy.

Kennedy pointed out the reality of the situation. These are not organizations that have independently arrived at their conclusions. The AMA, the American Academy of Pediatrics and “nearly all scientific and medical organizations” take information coming from the CDC and FDA as gospel.

In other words, if the CDC and the FDA are wrong, the entire medical establishment is wrong.

There’s a difference between consensus and herd mentality — a fact that never seemed to register with Vargas.

Kennedy is immensely knowledgeable about vaccine science and the regulatory process, as well as its corruption by Pharma interests. Moreover, he is a seasoned litigator and is not careless in his delivery. He correctly asks Vargas for clarification: “On what issue?”

Vargas first alludes to the possibility that vaccines could be the cause of autism and harm.

Kennedy immediately asks the obvious, “So you are saying that these organizations claim that vaccines NEVER damage kids?”

Vargas is forced to backpedal:

“I don’t think anyone is saying they never have. There may be a child here [or there], but overall vaccines have saved millions and millions of lives.”

Vargas is demonstrating the lack of understanding the public has about the issue. How can anyone claim that vaccines have saved millions and millions of lives if proper prospective studies with matched unvaccinated controls have never been conducted?

Kennedy makes this abundantly clear in his response to Dr. Butt, who asks Kennedy this question:

“Eradication of chicken pox and polio in the U.S. and in many parts of the world is a result of regular vaccination. MMR [measles, mumps, rubella] and many diseases are preventable. There is little evidence of these diseases in the vaccinated population. Your vaccine stance is dangerous to the health and well-being of millions. Medical experts are deeply concerned about your message. How can we help you come to the side of science?”

Kennedy admits there is evidence that vaccines have reduced the risk of mortality and morbidity from the diseases they target. However, he argued, without long-term prospective studies around all-cause mortality/morbidity in vaccinated populations nobody — no matter how educated or how big an organization you represent, he said — can claim there is an overall benefit.

Kennedy’s answer to the question dismantles the issue to the very core, catching Dr. Butt off guard. His methodical response should have proven to the audience that the family medicine doctor has very little grasp of all the available evidence.

Dr. Butt clearly wasn’t aware of analyses like this one that concluded that a “Mass varicella vaccination is expected to cause a major epidemic of herpes zoster, affecting more than 50% of those aged 10-44 years at the introduction of vaccination.”

Should studies like this guide public policy in the U.S.? They certainly do in the U.K., where health officials do not recommend universal vaccinations against chickenpox for precisely the reason Kennedy states.

Of all the preventable diseases out there, why would Dr. Butt use chickenpox as an example of how Kennedy’s vaccine stance is dangerous to the health and well-being of millions? Could it be that a doctor with a microphone was unaware of the science?

Was Dr. Butt aware of the enormous tragedy caused by the DTP (diptheria, tetanus, pertussis) vaccine in Africa? After 30 years of observation, it was shown that children vaccinated with the DTP shot were dying of other causes at 10 times the rate of the unvaccinated. We would have never known about this if no one actually looked.

The devastation caused by the DTP vaccine is not limited to the continent of Africa. Kennedy informed the audience that the flurry of lawsuits against manufacturers of this vaccine led to the passing of the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986, which has protected vaccine manufacturers from any liability.

As a concession to the public, this law also created the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, or VAERS, to “protect” and warn the public of potential vaccine danger; a system that has been shown to underreport injuries as commonly as it gets ignored.

Though Kennedy did not discuss the MMR and polio vaccines, his point was clear: Unless proper, long-term, prelicensure placebo-controlled safety studies are done we cannot determine if more harm than good is being done.

Dr. Butt’s response to the likely damage caused by the varicella and DTP vaccines was all too predictable: “A person can take a medicine and then get involved in a motor vehicle accident.” In other words, correlation does not prove causation!

Dr. Butt has good intentions. He is also particularly skilled at picking the weakest examples to prove his point.

The issue with the varicella vaccine was the resulting increased risk of herpes zoster infection (shingles). The issue with the DTP vaccine was the increased risk of death from other prevalent diseases that proved to be more deadly for the kids who received the vaccine.

We are not talking about random traumatic injuries that have nothing to do with immune modulation.

Furthermore, was Dr. Butt aware that the “correlation does not equal causation” argument can be used to dismiss vaccine benefits as well?

This double standard is mindlessly applied by vaccine proponents. Trials don’t prove causation, only correlation. That goes for efficacy too. On what grounds can one say that a vaccine caused a decrease in the disease it targets while assuring us that it was only correlated with an increase in side effects?

Trials just measure the incidence of things in two (or more) groups of participants. It’s a mathematical comparison. No causation is ever proven.

Vargas took issue with Kennedy’s claim that not one vaccine on the childhood immunization schedule has been subjected to a prelicensured placebo-controlled trial.

Vargas: “Yes they have.”

Kennedy: “No.”

Vargas: “Yeah, they have!”

And later …

Vargas: “The FDA says, and in fact, on its website, you can clearly see vaccines go through three stages of testing against double-blind placebo. They already DO that testing.”

Kennedy: “Elizabeth, you can say that.”

Vargas: “I’m not saying that. The FDA is saying that.”

Kennedy: “The FDA is not saying that.”

Vargas: “Yes they do! They say that on their website!”

Kennedy: “They will not tell you that there’s a vaccine that has ever undergone a long-term placebo-controlled trial prior to licensing because it’s not true.”

The reason why this embarrassing (and mildly entertaining) spectacle is important to dissect is because of what it reveals about the stubbornness we have about being right. Did Vargas actually scour the FDA website prior to this public exchange?

She couldn’t have for the obvious reason that no such statement from them exists on their website as she maintained.

Why is she so sure that she is right? I would venture to say it is because someone whom she trusts more than Kennedy told her that.

But was she really listening to what Kennedy was saying? Kennedy demanded a citation from Dr. Anthony Fauci in a face-to-face meeting with him in 2016. Fauci couldn’t produce one but promised he would.

He never did — so Kennedy (and attorney Aaron Siri) sued him and the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). After a year of litigation, they finally obtained a written statement from the HHS which still does not cite a single study but assures us that inert placebos are not required to demonstrate safety in childhood vaccines.

Of course, there is no reason Vargas should trust Kennedy if she has not visited the Children’s Health Defense website where the letter from the HHS is made available.

But at what point should she have paused and honestly asked herself about what she really knew and not just what she thought she did?

In this case, the spectacle arose not because Vargas was wrong, but because she was so sure she was right.

It’s also worthwhile to consider what was on the line for her, personally. Was she able to face the possibility that the vaccines we have been injecting into our own bodies and our children have never been tested against a placebo?

Her argumentative responses to Kennedy’s views, which he defended with several key citations off the top of his head, reflected the real impediments the public has toward seeing reality for what it is. What would it mean if Kennedy has been right all along?

As a veteran journalist for NewsNation and previously for Fox and A&E Networks, Vargas should have come prepared. Kennedy has previously made himself very clear that he is willing to change his mind. “Show me where I got it wrong.”

Kennedy asks Vargas to cite a single prelicensure, placebo-controlled vaccine study. She couldn’t because no one can. There aren’t any.

Kennedy pointed out the real issue: “We have a corrupt federal agency [FDA] that is lying to the AMA and all those agencies and all those doctors. But those agencies are controlled by Pharma. That is the problem.”

Without any studies to cite or any way to refute Kennedy’s damning allegations, Vargas chose to confront Kennedy with the fact that some of his family members disagree with his stance on vaccines.

Kennedy: “Does your family agree with everything that you say?”

Vargas: “Definitely not. You got me on that one.”

 

The Defender on occasion posts content related to Children’s Health Defense’s nonprofit mission that features Mr. Kennedy’s views on the issues CHD and The Defender regularly cover. In keeping with Federal Election Commission rules, this content does not represent an endorsement of Mr. Kennedy, who is on leave from CHD and is seeking the Democratic nomination for president of the U.S.

The views and opinions expressed in this article are those of the authors and do not necessarily reflect the views of Children's Health Defense.

 

Source: https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/rfk-jr-tariq-butt-vaccine-arguments-town-hall/

Pfizer Vaccine Batches in the EU Were Placebos, Say Scientists

 

 

Robert Kogon   
28 June 2023

Scientists have uncovered startling evidence that a substantial portion of the batches of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine deployed in the European Union may in fact have consisted of placebos – and that the German regulator knew this and did not subject them to quality-control testing.

The scientists, Dr. Gerald Dyker, Professor of Organic Chemistry at the Ruhr University Bochum, and Dr. Jörg Matysik, Professor of Analytical Chemistry at the University of Leipzig, are part of a group of five German-speaking scientists who have been publicly raising questions about the quality and safety of the BioNTech vaccine (as it is known in Germany) for the last year and a half.

They recently appeared on the Punkt.Preradovic online programme of the German journalist Milena Preradovic to discuss batch variability. Their starting point was the recent Danish study showing enormous variation in the adverse events associated with different batches of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, or BNT162b2 per its scientific codename. The below figure from the Danish study illustrates this variation.

 

It shows that the batches used in Denmark, which are represented by the points in the graph, essentially break down into three groups.

The ‘green batches’ clustered around the green line have a moderate or moderately-high level of adverse events associated with them. In the discussion with Preradovic, Gerald Dyker takes the example of the green point furthest to the right.

As he explains, it represents the batch that was the used the most in Denmark, with somewhat over 800,000 doses having been administered. These 800,000 doses are associated with around 2,000 suspected adverse events, which gives a reporting rate of one suspected adverse event per approximately 400 doses. As Dyker puts it, “That’s not a small amount if we compare to what we know otherwise from influenza vaccines.” According to Dyker’s calculation, the green batches account for more than 60% of the Danish sample.

There are then the ‘blue batches’ clustered around the blue line, which are obviously associated with an extraordinarily high level of adverse events. As Dyker notes, no more than 80,000 doses of any of the blue batches were administered in Denmark – suggesting that these especially bad batches may perhaps have been quietly pulled from the market by public health authorities.

Nonetheless, these batches had as many as 8,000 suspected adverse events associated with them. Eight thousand out of 80,000 doses would give a reporting rate of one suspected adverse event for every 10 doses – and Dyker notes that some of the blue batches are indeed associated with a reporting rate of as high as one suspected adverse event for every six doses!

On Dyker’s calculation, the blue batches represent less than 5% of the total number of doses included in the Danish study. Nonetheless, they are associated with nearly 50% of the 579 deaths recorded in the sample.

Finally, we have the ‘yellow batches’ clustered around the yellow line, which, as can be seen above, barely gets off the x-axis. On Dyker’s calculation, the yellow batches represent around 30% of the total. Dyker notes that they include batches comprising some 200,000 administered doses which are associated with literally zero suspected adverse events.

As Dyker puts it, “malicious” observers might note that “this is how placebos would look”.

And malicious observers might be right. For Dyker and Matysik compared the batch numbers contained in the Danish study with publicly available information on the batches approved for release, and they made the startling discovery that almost none of the harmless batches, unlike the very-bad and not-so-bad batches, appear to have been subject to any quality-control testing at all.

Unbeknownst to most observers, it is precisely the German regulatory agency, the Paul Ehrlich Institute (PEI), which is, in principle, responsible for quality control of all the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine supply in the EU. (The institute is named after the German immunologist and Nobel Prize winner Paul Ehrlich, not, of course, the Stanford biology professor of the same name.)

This reflects the fact that the actual legal manufacturer of the vaccine, as well as the marketing authorisation holder in the EU, is the German company BioNTech, not its more well-known American partner Pfizer.

Dyker and Matysik found that the PEI had tested and approved for release all the very bad ‘blue’ batches, the overwhelming majority of the not-so-bad ‘green’ batches, but almost none of the harmless ‘yellow’ batches – as if the PEI knew in advance that these batches were unproblematic.

This is shown in the below slide from Dyker’s presentation during the Punkt.Preradovic interview. The title reads: ‘Which batches from the Danish study did the Paul Ehrlich Institute test and approve for release?’

In the PEI column of each of the tables, “ja” means, of course, that the batch was tested, “nein” means that it was not. Note that only the first batch in the ‘yellow’ table was tested.

 

The caption under that table reads: “The PEI did not generally regard testing of the harmless ‘yellow batches’ as necessary.”

As Dyker put it, with notable restraint, “this would support the initial suspicion that they are maybe in fact something like placebos”.

Or, in short, to paraphrase the German scientists’ findings on the variability of the Pfizer-BioNTech batches, it would appear that the good was bad, the bad was very bad, and the very good was saline solution.

(The full Punkt.Preradovic interview with Gerald Dyker and Jörg Matysik is available here in German. The above translations are by your writer. A full, presumably machine-translated, English version of the interview is also available on the Punkt.Preradovic webpage.)

Robert Kogon is a pen name for a widely-published financial journalist, translator and researcher working in Europe. Subscribe to his Substack and follow him on Twitter.

Stop Press: Geoff Pain on Substack has suggested there may be an innocent explanation for these strange data linked to the fact that the adverse event reports the scientists looked at were only from Denmark but the batches were distributed across the world, where some adverse events (including deaths) were reported. It’s still not clear though why the zero-adverse-event lots would line up nearly perfectly with the ones not tested by the German regulator. If there are any updates on this we’ll post them here.

 

Source: https://dailysceptic.org/2023/06/28/pfizer-vaccine-batches-in-the-eu-were-placebos-say-scientists/

Hotez Attacks RFK Jr./Rogan, Refuses Over $1.5 Million to Debate RFK. Jr.

 

 

'Has There Ever Been A More Foolish Attack? Pride Comes Before A Fall'

Celia Farber
18 Jun 2023

I will follow up more on this soon, have no time right now, but I can tell you that since 1987, I have never ever seen a breakthrough of this magnitude into the mainstream. I knew it would happen when I listened to RFK Jr.’s epic 3 hour interview with Joe Rogan, and indeed it did.

The amount being offered to Peter Hotez to debate RFK. Jr who he attacked, foolishly, setting off a possibly fatal ball of Twitter fire, is approaching $2 million as I write this.

Are they approaching demise? The end of cultural amnesia/denial?

(See linked article for details.)

The emperor is naked. You can follow the unfolding events on Twitter, where Joe Rogan and RFK Jr. are trending. 

 

 

 

 

Who is Peter Hotez?

 

 

 

Source: https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/blowback-hotez-attacks-rfk-jrrogan?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=257742&post_id=129279465&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email

Dr. Mike Yeadon's Open Letter to Dr. Robert Malone

 

Europe Reloaded
June 6, 2023

ER Editor: Readers should be aware that Dr. Paul Alexander has made countless pointed blog posts about Dr. Robert Malone’s involvement in the damaging mRNA shots and that Malone needs to come out and account for them.

See the latest from Dr. Alexander —

How about Kariko, Malone, Weissman, Sahin, Bourla, Bancel etc., how about these creeps, these IMO people who must answer serious questions on mRNA technology etc., give back tax payer money to victims

Dr. Mike Yeadon is a little more placatory, yet pointedly urges Malone to use his influence and stop the massed global crime.

A reminder that Malone is still going ahead with two lawsuits, for $25 million each, against the Breggins and Dr. Jane Ruby. According to Dr. Alexander, Malone has warned Alexander behind the scenes to stop attacking him.

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My plea to Dr Robert Malone.

I fear he & David Martin are using their extensive platforms inter alia to reinforce the idea that there’s been a novel & often lethal respiratory virus striding across the globe. It wasn’t true. But they speak as though it is true. This is why I’ve paid such close attention to the topic. Please don’t shoot the messenger

 

Best wishes

Mike

Dr Mike Yeadon —just now — Edit

Dear Robert, I’m impressed by your work rate and your insightful passion. I’m troubled by one really important thing, though! You’re surely aware of the epidemiological analyses by Denis Rancourt and colleagues? This shows by analysis of state by state all causes mortality (age, sex, date only, ignoring claims of cause of death, since this is subject to manipulation) that there was no excess death anywhere until after WHO called a pandemic. They did so based on “confirmed cases”, which you & I know is essentially fraud, since PCR cannot be used as a clinical diagnostic. What Rancourt’s findings rule out is a pandemic.

His analyses show this in several ways (one of which I’ve just mentioned). Another is the age profile of the dead: completely inconsistent with a respiratory viral illness. Third is that all causes mortality varies according to jurisdiction and that points firmly to policy and not a spreading pathogen as cause of death.

The bottom lines are two-fold. 1. There is no evidence of any kind of pandemic 2. Therefore there wasn’t a novel respiratory virus, either. It was all lies.

There’s copious evidence of planning for a “pandemic” going back over 25 years. All had authoritarian regimes and mass vaccination as objectives. Now, Event 201 (autumn 2019) crowned these tabletop simulations, the fictional occurrence was “a novel coronavirus emerges in China & spreads around the world”. We’re expected to believe this astonishing concurrence with claimed reality just 3-4 months later is luck. I find it not credible.

The pandemic is a lie, like the other nine or so lies that were promulgated by main media. The evidence that matters shows there wasn’t a pandemic. The authorities knew there wasn’t a pandemic.

In light of this, all the oppressive “measures” should rightly be seen as planned terrorism. Not “mistakes”. No mistakes were made. The objective was to get a needle in every arm. You & I know that causing expression of a non-self protein axiomatically drives lethal autoimmune attack on every cell that took up the injected material, this is Immunology 101. It’s how our immune system distinguishes friend (self) from foe (non-self). The mRNA based injections were formulated with lipid nano particles (LNP). We’ve known for years in peer reviewed papers that LNP formulated macromolecules migrate everywhere in the body, but accumulate in certain organs, notably ovaries.

It is my contention that there never was a novel respiratory virus pandemic. Furthermore, it is my contention that the massed lies of governments around the world bore down on people and frightened & coerced or even mandated them to receive deliberately toxic injections. Their design brief was to cause injury, to maim & to kill.

I’d be VERY keen to hear you comment about Rancourt’s analyses and my assessment of foreign protein encoded mRNA products.

It’s very important that you level with your large audience which you’ve worked hard to create and cultivate (bless you!).

Please tell them there wasn’t a novel virus & that the injections were carefully designed to hurt people.

If you don’t do these things, I fear you’re inadvertently amplifying the perpetrators intentions. They’ll tell us “There’s another virus, come get your jabs”. You almost alone can bring this massed global crime to a halt. Please use your substantial powers so to do.

Best wishes and thanks Mike Dr Mike Yeadon (Pls search using eg Yandex & not eg Google. Why the extensive differences in what’s returned and what’s the meaning of such differences).

Source – Telegram channel, June 6 2023

 via Europe Roladed

The curtain is closing on virology

Christine Massey
FOIs 5 Jun 2023

Greetings and Best Wishes,

Last summer, a group of no-virus colleagues and I got together for a 2.5 hour online event called Monkeypox Mania - to dispell the pseudoscience-based nonsense around that imaginary virus.

This summer something much, much bigger and more significant is rolling out.

I am thrilled and beyond excited to let you know that the remarkable Alec Zeck and his colleagues at The Way Forward, Alfa Vedic and The Sovereign’s Way have put together a summit to end virology and the contagion myth once and for all.

100+ hours of educational content, in 88 sessions featuring dozens of presenters.

Tom Cowan, Andy Kaufman, Sam and Mark Bailey, Stefano Scoglio, Kevin Corbett, Amandha Vollmer, Barre Lando, David Icke, Mike Stone, Eric Coppolino, Michael Wallach, Kate Sugak, Dawn Lester, David Parker, Steve Falconer, Jordan Grant, John Blaid, Jacob Diaz, Daniel Roytas, Mike Donio, Michael Bryant, Gerald Pollack, Veda Austin, Brendan Murphy, Kelly Brogan, Christiane Northrup, the list goes on and on.

I’ll be featured as well, talking about the worldwide collection of “freedom of information” responses showing that health and science institutions have zero “virus” science.

The paradigm-shifting online educational experience begins on June 20th, with free viewing for a period of 3 weeks.

Mark you calendars!

For truth, freedom and sanity,
Christine

 

Source: https://christinemasseyfois.substack.com/p/the-curtain-is-closing-on-virology?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=992044&post_id=126024222&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email