[See transcript of Eric's interchange with RFK, or hear audio]
ERIC F. COPPOLINO
April 27th, 2022 GREENWICH, CT — Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. has acknowledged the
controversy within his own community over whether SARS-CoV-2 physically
exists, and whether any viruses exist, or make people sick. He made the
comments at a fundraising event here earlier this week.
Kennedy said that the issue erupts regularly on the email discussion
list of Children’s Health Defense (CHD), the vaccine safety and
education organization that he founded in 2016.
“On our list, there’s a number of people who make those kinds of
arguments” about how viruses allegedly don’t exist, Kennedy said in his
remarks. “And other people on the list server, and these are all very
brilliant people, ridicule them and dismiss them, and have them produce a
lot of evidence.”
Kennedy, the son of Sen. Robert F. Kennedy and the nephew of Pres.
John F. Kennedy, is considered one of the leading voices in the
international movement against covid-related mandates, lockdowns and
safety issues over covid injections. It is the first time he has
publicly commented on the virus-existence issue.
What is Being Used to Prime the Covid Test?
The matter of whether the SARS-CoV-2 virus physically exists has dual
significance. The obvious issue is that if there is not a virus, what
then is making people sick? And what are they being vaccinated against?
Second, and less obvious: If the government cannot prove that it has a
sample of natural SARS-CoV-2, then what is being used to prime the PCR
test that is supposed to match and find the genetic code of an actual
virus in a patient?
Scientists on all sides of the issue agree that viral particles have
not been physically isolated (with purified samples) and then sequenced.
Rather, hypothetical viruses are assembled from mixed biological
samples, and these “in silico genomes” are then assumed to not only
exist in nature but come from inside a pathogenic particle.
One virologist told me in July 2020 that SARS-C0V- 2 was being
assembled “like pages from a book,” necessary because no natural virus
particle was available to sequence. The problem is that nobody has
demonstrated these pages actually belong to the proposed book.
Hypothetical Viruses and Metagenomics
These hypothetical sequences are developed using technology called
metageonomics — without any reference to actual purified suspected
viruses. This artificial-intelligence process assembles a hypothetical
“virus” from information gathered either from a crude human body fluid
sample, or by making a “cell culture” experiment by mixing the fluid
with monkey cells, fetal calf serum, antibiotics and other poisons.
In all cases where covid is concerned, scientists have used the
latter. Because there is no actual virus available, there is no way to
verify if the proposed sequences are valid.
Said another way, in the absence of a real virus specimen, covid
tests look for sequences attributed to the “virus” merely via computer
models — but these “found” sequences almost always originate from
somewhere else. And “positive” results can emerge from nearly anywhere,
including the testing process itself). Yet if someone “tests positive”
for one of these claimed viral sequences, they are said to be “infected”
with SARS-CoV-2.
Previously, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)
has admitted that this type of test (technically called the RT-qPCR)
has had a 100% false positive rate and has caused several various
widely-documented “false epidemics.”
The claimed existence, transmissibility and pathogenicity of
SARS-CoV-2 were used to declare a global pandemic that by March 31, 2020
had 4.5 billion people around the world living under a stay-at-home
order or house arrest.
Seeking Documents from Governments, Agencies and Institutions
At a Q-and-A session at a fundraising event here Sunday, April 24, I
asked Kennedy about the work of Christine Massey in the Toronto area, a
statistician who is coordinating the worldwide effort to officially query governments, agencies and institutions about whether they have a sample of the claimed virus taken from a human.
Here is what I asked him verbatim [see transcript or hear audio]:
“Christine Massey in Toronto has amassed 182 responses under various
Freedom of Information Law requests from institutions, provincial state,
and federal, national governments, which all say that no one has a
sample of SARS CoV-2 taken from a human. Would you please comment on
that?”
Kennedy replied: “On our list, there’s a number of people who make
those kinds of arguments. And other people on the list server, and these
are all very brilliant people, ridicule them and dismiss them, and have
them produce a lot of evidence. I actually saw an exchange yesterday,
where somebody made that exact statement and then 10 people jumped on
him on with examples, of where that’s not true.”
The issue over the nature and existence of viruses represents the
single biggest split in the covid-truth and anti-mandates movements. I
first documented it in May of 2020.
‘I am Amused Reading These Exchanges’
He added: “I am kind of amused reading the exchanges, and my
inclination is that the viruses do exist and they do make people sick. I
could be wrong. It could all be a big hoax, but to me, it all seems
like viruses are real.”
But Kennedy answered a different question than the one I asked. I did
not present him with an argument, or ask him whether he thought viruses
were real. He admits that he uses a kind of mob rule to make up his
mind over critical scientific issues when he says, “And other people on
the list server, and these are all very brilliant people, ridicule them
and dismiss them, and have them produce a lot of evidence.”
Reading Kennedy’s response, Christine Massey said, “RFK Jr. now
relies on popular opinion and ridicule to evaluate science? When did he
declare incompetence with simple logic? And why is a man dedicated to
protecting children from medical harm uninterested in one of the
greatest medical frauds of all time?”
She also demanded the data from the 10 people on Kennedy’s list who claimed to prove that the virus had been isolated.
A Legal Issue — Not Scientific
Kennedy said he believed viruses exist, but I did not ask him about that.
Rather, I presented him with a legal issue, asking him to comment
about how someone well-known and established in covid truth circles over
the past two years has collected 182 responses from top-level
government agencies and institutions, all saying they do not have a
sample of SARS-CoV-2 extracted from a human host.
So far, no governments have produced a scientific paper saying that
they or anyone have such a sample, despite the claim that a contagious
virus has killed more than 5 million people worldwide.
I followed up and said to him, “The governments have said they don’t have a sample.”
Kennedy, an attorney, responded: “Freedom Information Laws do not
require the government agency to do science, or to answer specific
questions. What they do is, the Freedom of Information Laws make it
obligatory for the government to give you existing documents. So if you
are telling the government, ‘I want you to verify these, there are
documents’, they say, listen there’s nothing to verify it. It doesn’t
mean it’s not true. It means they’ve got nothing.”
‘Kennedy hasn’t read any of my records requests’
Massey responded in an email: “It appears that Kennedy hasn’t read
any of my records requests. I didn’t ask governments to ‘do science’ or
answer ‘specific questions’. All of my requests have been for
studies/reports in the possession, custody or control of an
institution.”
I asked Massey how she words her letters seeking documentation of a
sample of the claimed virus from a human host. She provided this example
of what she is seeking, and what so far all governments she has queried
deny having:
“All studies and/or reports in the possession, custody or control of
the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and/or the Agency
for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (ATSDR) describing the
purification of any “COVID-19 virus” (aka “SARS-COV-2”, including any
alleged “variants” i.e. “B.1.1.7”, “B.1.351”, “P.1”) (for example: via
filtration, ultracentrifugation and chromatography), directly from a
sample taken from a diseased human where the patient sample was not
first combined with any other source of genetic material (i.e. monkey
kidney cells aka Vero cells; fetal bovine serum).”
And so far all have said no such records exist. This includes the
U.S. CDC and the FDA, as well as Health Canada and the National Health
Service (NHS) of the UK. None of the 182 agencies and governments
queried have replied in the affirmative.
‘No Records Exist’ is an Important Response
Getting a “no records exist” reply is common, and seeking such a
reply is a common strategy for establishing that there has not actually
been a regulatory process for a policy issue. It is one of the most
important uses of open records laws.
In late 2020, the New York State Department of Health (NYS-DOH)
responded to an open records request saying it had no studies to prove
that masks are safe or effective at preventing the spread of viruses or
other diseases. For that same kind of “sorry no documents” FOIL reply,
Kennedy was much more outspoken.
At the time, he wrote to his Instagram followers, “It erodes popular
faith in democracy when public officials insist that their arbitrary
policies are ‘science based’ and yet cannot produce a single study to
support sweeping mandates. This letter illustrates the hazard of
abandoning due process.”
Previously, he had remained agnostic on the issue of masks and
whether masks work. He finally took a position in response to New York
State saying it had absolutely no data about whether masks are safe or
effective.
‘Forget the Title. Read the Methodology’
Mike Wallach is the director of a new documentary called The Viral Delusion: The Pseudoscience of SARS-CoV-2.
“They did not isolate a virus,” Wallach said. “The reason it’s so
confusing for people is that they claim to have done so in the titles of
the key scientific papers, but if you read the methodology sections,
it’s blatantly clear: they never isolated a virus. They never found
anything. The evidence is overwhelming.”
He added: “I respect the importance of political leaders like RFK Jr.
keeping an open tent, they have to. But at the same time, this is an
issue that should be front and center for the world public, and nobody
should be repeating this dogma about the existence of viruses.”
Mark Crispin Miller, professor of communication at New York
University, said, “It’s a needlessly divisive issue, with people
screaming, on both sides, as if it were the key to this whole thing —
which it isn’t. What will make the whole narrative collapse is not the
argument that there are no viruses, but the recognition that the
authorities we’ve all been listening to — the medical establishment, Big
Pharma, Academia, the media et al. — are malign, and intent on killing
us.
“That’s it. Everything else is a distraction. Whether the ravages of
COVID-19 have been exaggerated, or whether there’s no virus there at
all, is ultimately beside the point. And since Bobby’s role is in large
part political, as he attempts to keep this movement in one piece, his
disinclination to take sides here ought to be respected.”
‘This was what happened with HIV’
Dr. Kevin Corbett did his doctoral work on diagnostic testing
associated with HIV and AIDS, including research into the PCR. He said
this week that the existence of SARS-CoV-2 and associated tests, “Are
all based on in-silico modeled synthetic phenomena, which has never been
scientifically proven as coming from an actual virus.
“This was what happened with ‘HIV’, which The Perth Group of
scientists [in the 1990s] first proved was never isolated or purified.
Those powerful voices like Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., who sadly ignore this
issue, are badly misguided, because they fail to address this
fundamental caveat in ‘covid science’.”
Corbett cautioned, “Their efforts will only act to further socially
embed the popular hysteria of there being a contagion, and therefore
will enable further public health mandates forcing masks, social
distancing and the latest covid killshot.”
Eric F. Coppolino is the host of Planet Waves FM on the Pacifica Network, and author of the Comprehensive Covid Chronology
RFK Jr. Enters The Viral Existence Debate:
Source: https://planetwaves.fm/rfk-admits-sars-cov-2-existence-controversy/